person. each right to remain objective. sometimes that tough. i'm not as professional as your. professionals, and it's sometimes difficult. sometimes to maintain that access you have to establish this personal relationship. that is a little difficult. i tried to remain that distance and objectively, but we, i think , develop a comfort level to the point where, you know, i got to get snippet with him, the person. he -- when you interviewed these figures like this, especially political figures, presidents, kings, queens, whenever, 90 percent of what they tell you is scripted. it is to justify heard. one year and up the others.